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the screen there around 8:00 a.m. at that time, although the bank was not open, there were some employees inside. they are all out of that structure right now. thomas, we're also hearing because they were closed, there were no customers in the bank. one individual is currently inside the bank right now. we don't know if it's the same person that entered. there is a device in the bank, we were reporting earlier that they were preparing for a bomb situation. they brought out the bomb squad. they're confirming, the officials are, that there is a device in the bank. they're also urging people to try to stay away from this area that you can see on screen because of what they're doing. they have cordoned off a good section in front of the bank and that hostage negotiation teams are in place, but they have not been in contact here, thomas, with the individual. again, they're using the word individual at this moment in the briefing we're just listening to. they were not using the word suspect. that just getting into us within the last five to seven minutes for you. >> what we understand, this is
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right by the university of miami. a popular bank branch for the students. >> very popular. just to show you how close it is. i'll show you this map right here. this is the bank according to google maps. this is the university of miami right here. 150 yards separate them. to get a sense of how crowded this area is. you have hear a terrace inn and cereal bowl another place and very residential. so, very much an area that is very well populated and used. at the moment, very difficult. you can see from this tower cam how busy, again, the traffic is as they have cordoned off that area. >> richard, stay with me, we're doing great stuff. we will bring in clint, an msnbc analyst and also a chief hostage negotiator with the fbi. he joins us now by the telephone now. clint, what do you think of the situation right now and how police are handling it. they're just calling this person an individual. >> i think they're trying to be
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very careful. again, thomas, as you know, these are such fast breaking situations now. a little while earlier the fbi spokesman for the fbi allegedly reported that a bank of america employee had a bomb strapped to him that he had been kidnapped from his apartment in south miami and that he was forced to enter the bank before the bank opened. now, this would make sense as far as everything else that's coming to us that a bank employee had been kidnapped and that the robber may have used that employee to force the other employees to open a door and let him in. and hopefully now everybody is out. except for this individual, whether we call him a robber, suspect, whatever. but this is going to change, thomas. this is such a fluid situation. one guy, two guys, a mustang, a hostage, a bomb, guns. all of this is very rapid, but the police and the fbi are there
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and they're going to stabilize the situation and my past experience says that the authorities know what they're dealing with. they're working very hard, if they haven't already established some type of communication. and realize, thomas, that could be the easiest way by telephone calling in and they may have somebody's cell phone inside or even by loud speaker. they will attempt to establish some type of dialogue to help resolve the situation. >> clint, though, explain from your past experiences, though, when a robbery, what we assume to be some type of bank robbery, the robber having a bomb strapped it them. this isn't about a quick get away or getting the cash and getting out of the place. >> well, you take the individuals word that there is, in fact, a bomb. that is why we've seen the bomb squad and fire department and other emergency vehicles around. whether that is actually a real bomb or not, we don't know.
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the authorities are not going to take any chances. they don't want to get anybody hurt. and, of course that idea of a bomb gives the individual inside kind of a standoff capability. it keeps the authorities, not that they would anyway, from entering the bank at this time. so, once again, a situation like this falls back on my former colleagues hostage negotiators. it is their job to open that dialogue, that line of communication, reduce the stress and anxiety level of anybody inside and help that person understand that the best way to resolve this is for him to lay down any weapons and come out. nobody has been hurt at this time, nobody needs to be hurt and that's what's going to work best for this person. if it was a robbery, it didn't work, that's the way it is. but don't make it any worse. >> very good point. clint, stand by for us and we want to go now to diana gonzalez of miami wtvj. we were talking with clint about establishing communication. do you know from being on the scene there whether police were
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able to establish communication with the person inside of the bank? >> i'm not sure about that. they just keep moving us back and back so now we're at a little bit of a distance. i'd say about a block away from the back side of the bank and have a pretty clear shot of the doors. let me just, let me just say that now that i've been here on the scene for a while and this has been taking place now for about three hours, i've been able to talk to somebody who actually works in the building. and who is friendly with the bank manager. and she tells me that the bank manager was allowed to walk out this morning. she has walked out and is being questioned by police. and i am told that one of the bank tellers was, you know, was taken hostage. now, it's unclear whether or not that teller has been released at this point, but that's what we're hearing from people here on the scene. >> and diana, just real quickly, again, to confirm for us, you're saying that the bank manager was
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able to walk out. is this the person that was taken hostage by the individual? >> from what i understand, there were, i'm being told this by somebody who works in the building. >> right. >> and knows the bank manager. my understanding is that at the time this all happened around 8:00 a.m. this morning, there were two people in the bank, the bank manager and the teller. and that the manager, a woman, was allowed to leave. >> okay. all right, diana -- >> and that that woman is now being questioned by police. whether or not the other teller has been released, i can't say from here. >> diana, we'll let you get back to work, i thank you very much. diana gonzalez from wtvj of the nbc affiliate in miami for us. if you're just joining us, a situation in miami at a bank of america there where an individual entered, suspected to have some type of device on him. we're going to continue to follow this story and bring you the latest right here on msnbc. we move on this morning to another situation. this one happening on the west
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coast. right now reporters, fans and paparazzi are all crowded outside of a beverly hills courthouse where a hearing will begin in 30 minutes for the actress lindsay lohan. the crowd has been gathering since early this morning just hoping to get a peek of the troubled actress as he heads back into court. a judge will have to determine if lohan will go back to jail for violating her probation and two weeks ago she failed a random drug screening testing positive for cocaine. gina kim is live outside of the courthouse in beverly hills. gina, she has been late in the past, but we cdo expect this to get kicked off in about 30 minutes. >> yes, absolutely. she was late last time so hopefully arriving here any minute because her hearing begins promptly in about 25 minutes from now, she does not want to get the judge upset this morning. the question here this morning, thomas, is has lindsay lohan finally used up all of her nine lives and is the judge really going to get tough on her this time? if you may recall, it was
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exactly a month ago that she was released from her 23 days in rehab and 13 days behind bars and yet here we are already back again, deja vu at the beverly hills courthouse where 8:30 this morning pacific time she'll meet with a relatively new judge in the case, judge elvin fox. now last month when the judge gave her the terms of her probation. look, if you miss or fail any more drug tests or alcohol tests, i'll send you right back to jail for 30 days and we will see in about an hour from now whether he makes good on that promise. >> all right, gina, keep us posted. we turn now to another celebrity story, sort of. staying in full character, comedian stephen colbert testified as an expert witness on capitol hill now the star brought his own version of truthness. colbert mocked those who claim that immigrants are taking away jobs from americans and here is his full testimony.
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>> my name is stephen colbert and i am an american citizen. it is an honor and a privilege to be here today. congressman lofgren asked me to share my vast experience spending one day as a migrant farm worker. i am happy to use my celebrity to draw the tension to this important complicated issue and i certainly hope my star power can bump this hearing all the way up to c-span1. as we've heard this morning, america's farms are presently far too dependent on immigrant labor to pick our fruits and vegetables. now, the obvious answer is for all of us to stop eating fruits and vegetables. and if you look at the recent obesity statistics, you'll see that many americans have already started. unfortunately, my gastrointurologist has informed me in no uncertain terms that they are a necessary source of roughage. as evidence, i would like to submit a video of my colonoscopy into the record.
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we all know there is a long tradition of great nations importing foreign workers to do their farm work. after all, it was the ancient israelites who built the first food pyramids. this is america, i don't want atimaa tomato picked by a mexican. i want it picked by an american, then sliced by guatemalan. because my great-grandfather did not travel across 4,000 miles of the atlantic ocean to see this country overrun by immigrants. he did it because he killed a man back in ireland. that's the rumor. i don't know if that's true. i would like to have that stricken from the record. so, we do not want immigrants doing this labor and i agree with congressman king, we must secure our borders. of course, i'm sure arturo rodriguez is saying who then would pick our crops then, stephen? first of all, arturo, don't interrupt me while i'm talking, that's rude.
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second, i reject this idea that farm work is among the semimythical jobs that americans won't do. really? no americans. i did. as part of my ongoing series, stephen colbert's fallback position where i try other jobs and realize that mine is way better. i participated in the ufw's take our jobs campaign one of only 16 people in america to take up the challenge. although that number may increase in the near future, as i understand, many democrats may be looking for work come november. now, i, i'll admit i started my work day with preconceived notions of migrant labor, but after working with these men and women, picking beans, packing corn for hours on end side by side in the unforgiving sun, i have to say and i do mean this sincerely, please don't make me do this again. it is really, really hard. for one thing, when you're
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picking beans, you have to spend all day bending over. it turns out and i did not know this, most soil is at ground level. if we can put a man on the moon, why can't we make the earth waist high? come on, where is the funding! this brief experience gave me some small understanding of why so few americans are clamoring to begin an exciting career as seasonal migrant field worker. so, what's the answer? i'm a free market guy. normally i would leave this to the invisible hand of the market, but the invisible hand of the market has already moved over 84,000 acres of production and over 22,000 farm jobs to mexico and shut down over a million acres of u.s. farm land due to lack of available labor because apparently even the invisible hand doesn't want to pick beans. i'm not a fan of the government doing anything, but i've got to ask, why isn't the government doing anything? maybe this ad job's bill would help. i don't know. like most members of congress, i
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haven't read it. maybe we can offer more visas to the immigrants. maybe we can offer more visas to the immigrants who, let's face it, will probably be doing these jobs anyway. this improved legal status might allow immigrants recourse if they're abused. it just stands to reason to me that if your co-worker can't be exploited, then you're less likely to be exploited yourself and that itself might improve pay and working conditions on these farms and eventually americans may consider taking these jobs again. or maybe as the that's crazy. maybe the easier answer is just to have scientists develop vegetables that pick them selves. the genetic engineers over at fruit of the loom have made great strides in human fruit hybrids. the point is, we have to do something because i'm not going back out there. at this point, i break into the cold sweat at the sight of a salad bar. i thank you for your time. again, it's an honor, a privilege and a responsibility to be here. i trust that following my
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testimony both sides will work together on this issue in the best interest of the american people as you always do. i am now prepared to take your questions and/or pose for pictures with grandchildren. i yield the balance of my time usa number one. >> all right, so, you weren't watching comedy central, that was actually stephen colbert in full character testifying before a house hearing on immigrant farm workers. you take away from it what you will. we want to continue to follow the breaking news coming to us out of florida. this happening in miami where a possible hostage situation is going on at a miami bank of america branch there near the university of miami. we'll follow this story. we're back right after a quick break. [ animals calling ] ♪ [ pop ]
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welcome back, everybody. live pictures from austin, tex, at this hour as the state board of education debates a textbook ban. some members say certain te textbooks should be -- the board is set to vote on that issue today. pastor robert jeffries is for the ban and professor mark chancy teachers at southern methodist university is against the ban. i thank you both for joining me this morning. this is not the first time thim that the board altered curr curriculum. in references to the form of u.s. government and replacing it constitutional republic. howeverx in the revolution itself, it reads like this, texas elected state board of education is a principal democratic check and balance on otherwise often unresponsive editors. they refer to themselves as a democratic check.
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is this semantics? >> well, let's talk about the issue today, thomas. the issue is about this resolution that does not ban the teaching about islam from textbooks. it simply says that all world religion s ought to be treated equally and you can't exalt one world religion. nobody that is reasonable would reject to this unless they're more interested in indoctrination than the education of our students. >> you say this resolution is inaccurately portraying what is happening in texas schools. how so? >> well, i don't think this resolution is about fairness. no one opposes fairness and if this resolution were fair, no one would oppose it. this resolution is not about fair. the author of this revolution has said that he is afraid muslims are trying to take over america without firing a shot by gaining control of the market to take over the minds of our young people. now, this is absurd, it reflects
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prejudice geagainst muslims and based on a disturbing level of illiteracy. >> what age range are these students that you're concerned about learning about islamic studies? >> well, it would certainly include all students and i would be the first to admit, thomases, that there have been great atrocities committed in the name of christianity. the bible has been distorted to support sexism and slavery. i think students ought to know about it, if you point those out, you also ought to point out the poversion of islam, radicalized islam that poses a great danger to the world's security today. why not mention both instead of vilifying christianity and exalting islam. this resolution does not call for banning any current books, it is a policy about future books that says we ought to treat all world religions equally and it actually refers to islam as a great world
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religion. something that is much more charitable than i would say, personally. >> professor chance, do you think there could be an accurate portrayal through these books? >> i think most people would agree that it should portray the good, the bad and the ugly including religions that goes for christianity and islam and on that we agree. where we disagree, there is a fundamental imbalance in the textbooks today. this is a very odd resolution. i have been looking over the pertinent textbooks and this resolution really misrepresents what is actually in textbooks. it's based on textbooks that aren't even in use in texas schools any more. they have been replaced by different editions and misrepresents the editions that it does cite. i think that anyone who sat down and looked carefully at these textbooks and compared them to the resolution this misrepresents what is going on in texas schools. i do not think we're seeing
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vilification of texases schools. >> i want to ask you as a man of god, do you think that we have such a heightened sensibility in the american culture that is using religion to vilify the islamic fate. >> you know, it reminds me the american who was talking to the russian and said in our country, we can criticize our president and the russians said, that's no different. in our country, we can also criticize your president. the truth is, it's fashionable to christianity but we do not point out any of the weaknesses of islam. that is not fair. if we're going to talk about the great crusades that were horrible and we should also talk about muslim acts of aggression, as well. that is education, inted stead of indoctrination and the fact that people are against this resolution, thomas, which simply calls for equal treatment shows how much this resolution is needed.
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>> this resolution is not about equal treatment, it is about hostility towards islam. that's a sad day. >> gentlemen, we have to leave it there. we have to remind everybody that this meeting is taking place right now at this hour, the texas board of education debating about the possible textbook ban. we'll continue to follow that and bring you that later today on msnbc. in other news, airlines pull out of their nose dive. yeah, why profits are set to peak this year and why passengers deserve a lot of the credit. we're talking about you. ... and if you go with us, it'll be a win-win. it certainly will. i think this could be a win-win. maybe. this is going to be a win-win. win-win. a what ? a win-win. you should say win-win... use a hyphen. you know what this is ? a win-win ? a home run. ah, that was my next guess. win-win. win-win. drink. man, this trip was great. i mean... i'm just... ah... pumped. we know why you fly.
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so, we are now learning more about a $100 million donation to the struggling newark public school system coming from facebook founder mark zuckerberg. under an agreement cory booker will now develop a comprehensive education plan that the state will maintain legal control of the school system and details of the agreement were announced, where else, but the oprah
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winfrey show. >> i've committed to starting the start-up education foundation. whose first project will be a $100 million challenge grant. >> $100 million? >> $100 million. >> pretty good stuff there, huh? mark zuckerberg has an estimated networth of $6.9 billion. also want to pass along a programming note for you on monday. matt lauer sits down with an exclusive interview with president obama to kick off education nation. nbc look at the state of education and the interview will also air live on msnbc for a full half hour beginning at 8:00 a.m. eastern and you can submit your questions and thoughts for the president at we want to hear from you. all right, get ready to clean out your medicine cabinet. why authority want you to hand over your expired or unused prescription drugs. later, lady gaga's infamous meat dress is getting hung out
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neutrogena. #1 dermatologist recommended brand. nchlsh there were no last-minute interventions last night to stop the state of virginia from executing teresa lewis so lewis who was convicted of hiring hitmen to kill her husband and stepson was pronounced dead. her case has sparked international outrage because lewis' attorney argued she wasn't capable of masterminding these murders. here is how one described teresa's final moments. >> when she was led to the gurney became visibly more nervous and upset and when she laid down the corrections officer the closest to her head was actually tapping the top of her shoulders to try and calm her, it seemed. >> maria is with the "washington post" and also a media witness at that execution and joins us now by the telephone.
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explain who else was in attendance for this. were there any family members for lewis there? >> well, no, the family members of teresa lewis are not allowed to the executions in virginia. there were media and civilian witnesses and her lawyer and her chaplain. there is another room where family members of the victims can gather. we couldn't see that room, but we understood that the daughter and sister of her victims had planned to attend. >> lewis is now the first woman executed in virginia in nearly 100 years. explain some of the last-minute legal attempts. were there any up to the last minute there? >> yeah, absolutely. her legal team had asked governor bob mcdonald for clemency. he denied that. they came back with a second request. he denied that, as well. and also they asked the u.s. supreme court to for a stay and the court declined to intervene. >> we discussed this before the lawyers attempt was to say that
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she was mentally incapable of doing this because her iq of only being 72. was she aware of what whauz happening? >> in the end her lawyer told us afterward that she did understand that she had come to peace with what was going to happen and in her last words she apologized to the daughter and sister of her victims. she spent her last hours visiting with family, praying and singing. >> maria, thank you. we appreciate it. >> thank you. the nation's drug enfor enforcement agency is asking people across the country to drop off their expired or unused prescriptions at more than 4,000 locations starting tomorrow. it's called the national take back initiative and the event is part of the dea's ongoing effort to combat prescription drug abuse, which is disturbing and really dramatic surge in recent years. we get more now from pete williams who joins us live now from washington, d.c. just how big of a problem is prescription drug abuse right now? >> the dea says it's the fastest growing problem in terms of drug
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abuse that, for example, look at one categoryoxycotin. they say deaths from overdose, the majority of deaths from overdose are now caused by prescription drugs and that prescriptions rank second only to marijuana in terms of drugs that are abused to get high. in the past, they used to say flush those drugs down the drain or throw them in the garbage, now they say flushing them into the water supply contaminates the water and putting them in the garbage means people can get them. let me show you here, if you come back here, i'll show you where you can find out where you can take these drugs to be destroyed. go to the dea website, and as you get on there, you'll see this thing that says, get drugs, click on this. it takes you to a little gizmo where you can take your drugs. take those unused, outdated, unnecessary drugs out of your medicine cabinet and give them to the dea and they will destroy
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them for you. now, how effective would this be? last year in new jersey the dea tried this late last year and found out it got 9,000 pounds of drugs in a single day. that's 3.5 million pills. so, they believe this will be quite efebtive. >> pete, it's also important to point out that you talk about the 4,000 different locations on the website, but people can do this anonymously and also without fear of prosecution. >> absolutely. now, i should point out this is not for getting rid of your, of your illegal drugs, if you happen to have any. this isn't amnesty like gun buy backs. this is to get rid of what's in your medicine cabinet. the reason is because dea says so many young people get in there and these drugs are becoming the most abused and that is the growth and the drug problem and that's what they're trying to get people to do and they say this is the best way to dispose of what you don't need any more. >> pete, real quickly. i'm sorry if you said this because somebody was talking in
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my ear. how long is this program going to go on for? >> it will be nationwide tomorrow and then they'll, depending on how it goes, there will probably be more events like this. it is a one-day event tomorrow. >> pete williams in washington, d.c., pete, great to see you. >> my pleasure. if you paid to check a bag, or buy a pillow, you want to hear this one. airline profit margins for the second of quarter of the year were the highest since 2002. the nation's airlines reported an overall profit of $3.9 billion. pretty amazing, huh? joining me now from washington is charlie, director of the consumer travel alliance. charlie, this is because the major airlines are flying with packed planes and collecting fees for almost everything that yu used to be free and we're even talking about nowadays talking to a ticket agent. >> you're exactly right and the fees have been going up. if you look at the $3 billion of profits that the airlines made
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in the last quarter, more than $2 billion of those dollars were made from airline fees. more than almost $900 million of those dollars came from baggage fees and about $600 million came from change fees. >> this is big, 16% jump increase from 2009, but we've talked for so long about the problems with the airline industry and how many have suffered. isn't this supposed to be good news? >> well, it's good news that the airlines are starting to make money again. and i don't begrudge them making money. what i really am upset about is being nickeled and dimed by hidden baggage fees and the airlines are still not releasing their fees to travel agents so that we can go online and actually compare apple to apple prices. that's the big problem the consumers have these days. >> delta raking in the first here, first in fees collected followed by american, usairways and southwest. interestingly enough, though, southwest has always promoted being such a low-cost model and other airlines trying to follow
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in their footsteps because they have remained profitable. >> they have remained profitable and you notices that any of their income comes from baggage fees such as carrying pets from overweight baggage and so on. but because they carry so many people. southwest carries more domestic passengers than any other airline they sort of creep up in the standings. >> when we talk about what the airline industry needs to make up for what it lost, obviously, after 9/11, i believe it's $19 billion that they need to make up for in the next 20 years to actually get back on track. >> well, they have to make up a lot of money and i think that they're going to start doing all of that, however, i really think they need to do it in an open and transparent way. they have to let passengers know what's going on with their airline tickets and how much the total price of travel is going to be. that's what we've been trying to promote here in washington and we've got about 60,000 people yesterday who signed on to our petition that went to the department of transportation asking for transparency in airline prices.
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so, we're moving forward. the airlines are moving forward and i think that they can do a much better job in reaching out to the consumers. >> charles, we all love cheap flights, just the extra fees that we hate. great to see you, thank you. >> okay, take care. moments ago lindsay lohan arrived back in court over that probation haveilation. we want to get the scoop today from courtney hazlett. >> hi, thomas. >> lindsay back to court. >> the beverly hills courthouse is becoming a place she knows quite well. she's back in court, of course, because of those failed drug tests from week ago, what is going to happen? first of all, i think it's interesting that cameras are not allowed in the courtroom this time around. i think the judge is definitely sending a message, this is not about you being on parade, this is what is going on here and that is to address the failed drug test. now, previously the judge said for each failed test she would be sentenced to 30 daze in jail and i don't think anyone is expecting that necessarily to happen. i'm told part of the reason
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because of overcrowding problems and if she went to jail, she would more or less go and spend a few days and then be released because of those overcrowding problems, which is why she was released early in the first place. >> if she had remained in rehab, she wouldn't have been able to do cocaine three weeks ago because she still would have been -- >> or a lot more difficult for her. i hear what you're saying and i think right now the judge is going to feel like there's egg on his face for, you know, for letting lindsay out early and, you know, it seems to just prove, okay, maybe you should serve a whole sentence. maybe everybody was right and it's just really tragic at this point because it's the same thing over and over again. >> right. what's the definition of insanity? doing the same thing expecting a different result. >> but i think it's fair for us to expect a different result. at some point when we are talking about something this serious. lindsay uses her acting career as a fallback. she keeps getting roles. you can't say to her, you're not
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successful because of this problem when she's on the cover of "vanity fair" and promoting a movie. nothing is hitting home. in the eyes of lindsay lohan, it's not the problem that we all think it is and so long as she keeps getting to, you know, get out of these sentences earlier and not have to serve them at all, i think it's just going to hammer that home. >> i don't think she wants of her life is career criminal and that's what she's turning into, basically. >> lindsay doesn't view it that way. a massive, massive disconnect between show she views herself and how the public is beginning to view lindsay and interesting to see when she has this a-ha moment where she realizes maybe people don't think of me the same way i think of myself. >> people can get back on the same page of thinking of her as a rehab graduate if she stays for the 90 days that the court ordered her. >> don't invite photo shoots. just be serious about this. there are a lot of people
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struggling with these same issues and i'm not saying that she has to shoulder the responsibility of being an example to them, but she's also not a good xhampal to a lot of kids right now who watch her in "freaky friday" and watched her in "parent trap" and grew up with her and might have issues like this, too. the de facto burden on the shoulders of a celebrity tat you a are an example. >> courtney, thanks so much. for the very latest entertainment news, as always logon to there are some things considered news in this world and only a few stories that make us say -- >> no way! >> -- lady gaga's meat dress getting a new life of its own. all those strips of meat are turn under to jerky. the designer wants to dry out the dress so it can be archived for prosperity. the new push to prevent concussions among young athletes.
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bring it to you here on msnbc. mare harrowing testimony forensic officials are due on the stand to talk about how jennifer hawke-petit and her daughters michaela and hayley died. they learned about photos and text messages found on the cell phones of the two defendants steven hayes and joshua komisarjevsky. jeff is here and i appreciate that help on that. that last name, no vowels. anyway, fill me in on exactly what is taking place and why the text messages are so disturbing. >> the text messages are disturbing, everything is disturbing in this case. it's the night before they actually went in and then invaded the petit's home and they're setting it up. i want to put it on the screen
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so you can see exactly how heartless this was. 7:45 p.m. hayes says i am chomping at the bit to get started. need a margarita soon. he writes, we still on? and komisarjevsky writes back yes. and he says, soon? komisarjesky writes i'm putting the kid to bed. these are two guys that are talking like they are going to get a beer at a local bar and meanwhile, they are about to go, according to prosecutors, invade this family's home in the middle of the night and within a couple of hours they had tied this family up and torturing them and drove jennifer hawke-petit to the bank to get money to pay a ransom and there is the surveillance video of jennifer hawke-petit trying to get that money and they burn the house down and some of the testimony has just been so awful and
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talked about what happened inside of that house before it burned down the sexual assaults and i don't want to get init it any more than that. the sexual assaults and one of the little girls, the 11-year-old girl and just about how william petit escaped. it's so hard for him to hear, william petit he had to walk out of the courtroom because it was too disturbing to look at his family burned. >> do we know how they were targeted? >> random, a random home invasion which is one reason this case has gotten the national and international attention because you think to yourself, especially in cheshire, connecticut, a nice neighborhood. we don't even lock the doors around here. this was one of those towns. it was random. it could happen to anybody at any time, it appears. >> thanks, as always. >> thanks, thomas. protecting young athletes from concussions. a new push to put safe in
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a house committee is considering legislation that would issue minimum guidelines how school districts handle stun student athletes recovering from a concussion. each room emergency rooms treated 135,000 concussions among kids, 18 and under. but the unreported number is thought to be a whole bunch higher. nbc tom costello joins in washington, d.c. explain for all of us. we know how dangerous concussions are on the onset but what are some of the potential lasting problems of them? >> well, the trouble is i'm not sure that even, you know, this is permeated the national consciousness how dangerous concussions really are, because what they are now saying is it's not a matter of two or three or four concussions. a single concussion can have lasting impacts. and the situation is that inside
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the skull, it's rough inside the skull, and that it tears at the brain when the brain hits so hard against the skull and it can tear the fibers of the brain and that can have lasting impact. headaches, difficulty concentrating, vision, balance problem and each depression and suicide. and so now what has happened this movement across the country over the last ten years has really spread telling doctors, telling athletes, telling their coaches and the parents if you suspect that an athlete has a head injury, they have to come off the field immediately and we're not just talking football. we are talking soccer, lacrosse, basketball, baseball, anything at all where a child or a player may need to come off the field. >> a lot of these sports you just mentioned, you know, really aren't wearing helmets. football, obviously. what is the congressional committee proposing in terms of combating this? >> what they are suggesting is to take what is already law in ten states and make it national.
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the bottom line here is they are talking about displaying in a informational pollster available in the locker room or available to every player the risk of concussions. in addition to that, keep student athletes out of the games and practices as soon as there is evidence of any sort of head injury and don't let them in until the parents have been notified but more precisely until they are evaluated by a health care professional. we are talking about doctors, not emt and paramedics. to evaluate a player after a head injury and then plan for a trarks circumstances back into the classroom. thomas, a lot of these kids and talking teenagers and sometimes college kids, vef they have a head injury there and rushed back into the classroom but the impact of the concussion can last days, weeks and even months so they need to transition back in and not rush them on to the playing field. >> it's very important for everybody out there, as we start the fall sports season. >> it's important to speak up. if you're a patient or another
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parent and maybe it's not your kid, speak up, especially to the coach. >> tom, thank you. that does it for me this hour. contessa brewer picks things up at the top of the hour. >> good to see you, thomas. the big story we are talking about in new york city, president obama calling iran president's hateful. you will get the full explanation why. troubled actor lindsay lohan is in court. plus, he is cracking them up on the hill. stephen colbert talking about a serious issue with not so serious commentary. thomas, your jaw has dropped open. we will get the whole story coming up next hour. okay? you exercise and eat right, but your blood sugar may still be high, and you need extra help. ask your doctor about onglyza, a once daily medicine used with diet and exercise to control high blood sugar
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